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Monday, April 24, 2006 

wow, this sounds prideful.

we had tiffany's brother (mike) and grandmother (grandmama) over for dinner last night. after grandmama (yes, that's what we call her) left, tiffany and i and mike had this really meaningful talk about Christianity and church and what it means to "move forward" in your own Christianity. mike really opened up about how he feels about things. he told us that we were some of the only people he knows that are able to be Christians and still be cool. i don't know exactly what that means, but i think i kind of understand. i think it's something like being a Christian without being awkward and over-spiritual and such. so being an evangelical, pretty much.

being told that, for me, conjures up much inner denial because i know of what a bastard i am. much of my realization of what (i think) Christianity is supposed to look like does not actually translate into my everyday life. probably most of it. and, as i was discussing with krissy the other day, reminds me that much of the "progression" i've had in terms of my own Christianity has been on accident, so to speak. how much of my knowledge of the Bible and what it truly means to be a Christian is a result of a passion to know Christ and how much of it has simply been being lucky enough to be around some really great people? how much of it has just been the priviledge of having religious schooling?

and yet a conversation like last night's is also very encouraging. in hopefully not a prideful sense, i do sort of feel like i've got a pretty good grasp on the Bible and Christianity (the scary thing about that is that's also the way i felt after my first year of word of life). maybe i'll find out in eternity that i really don't (maybe i've gone too far in the other direction and am not "peculiar" enough), but i feel very priviledged to not have followed down the Christian path that so many people do.

my friend jon actually told me something similar not that long ago. something like, "how did you go through the ultra-conservative schooling and upbringing that you had and still end up having so many level-headed perspectives?" my answer to him was just that i've ended up following the paths that i've found attractive. simple as that. the super-conservative ways never seemed like attractive ways of living, so i've looked for alternatives. and ultimately those alternatives have been embodied in many of my friends and mentors. i really can't take much of the credit.

i really wish yo weren't so prideful. don't you know it makes god angry?
i understand what you are saying and i lie it. i think it actually gives more credit to god and his role in our sanctification. thought i still don't know how all that works (i.e., we get saved, god gradually makes us holier and holier in his own timing. hmmm? if you aren't saved you don't grow at all??)
i would also agree with you in that i have had most of my growth from spending time with people i admire. wol was huge for me because of the time spent with locy, you, jon, etc. the year i spent with matt and elisa also huge. now my pastor and the few moments i get with you i grow 10x's. damn, we should turn tampa 2006 into a think tank.

i have the same questions about sanctification. in the post i wrote something like that i was glad i didn't go down that (what i find) "unattractive christian path." well, what about those people who are on that path? i guess i assume that God is just growing them in different ways or something? i don't know. it's a weird concept that there doesn't seem to be just one Christian path, but many. yet again, my Catholic friend jon would probably disagree with that idea.

and yeah, the people that i've spent time with have definitely meant more to my growth than any other factor. that's probably why i find small communities of believers so darn attractive.

thanks for having so many good comments, shawn. i appreciate it and i can't wait to see you in tampa.

i think the 1 way mentality of the 'path' is engrained in our being from the fundies. the types of people who would call you sinner for believing in covenant theology.
isn't this the priesthood of believers thing? dealing with you being a priesthood and the holy spirit responsible for leading you or something, i remember it being something you were taught @ bbc.
the stories i have been writing, not published on my blog yet, are focusing on living amongst the fundies and the beauty of their intentions. i think that is what i find hardest, especially since it reveals a very seemingly evil god in their mind.
tampa baby! hells yeah and cereal!

tiffany's grandmother is larry johnson???

tampa2006!!!! owe!!!!!!!!

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